Sunday, October 12, 2008

Postmodern Youth Ministry?

Like I mentioned, I'm teaching a course for the next few weeks having to do with postmodernism and ministry. The textbooks are standard for the course in our Grad Min MA program, so I'm reading books chosen by someone else. One that is different from my usual fare is Postmodern Youth Ministry, by Tony Jones of emerging fame.

I've taught cohorts coming off this class and after reading Jone's first chapter, I better understand the kinds of allusive statements I've heard them make about the course. I just finished the first chapter. It is very suggestive and impressionistic to me--not inappropriate for a book about youth ministry in a postmodern world. But I can imagine that it has been a cross between confusing and irritating to many of our students.

Here are some of my thoughts. First, I think this book, as so much postmodern hype, confuses what I call "philosophical postmodernism" with what we might call "cultural postmodernism." By the way, this book was written pre-9-11 and pre-economic meltdown, so it seriously remains to be seen what youth culture will look like in the days to come. 9-11 provided a conservative backlash that at the very least affected what is emerging. And a post-economic crisis world may make the anti-materialist message of some moot.

My problem with discussions of the postmodern turn is 1) it essentializes postmodernism--it makes postmodernism into a thing when postmodernism is an anti-thing, 2) you can't live with an anti-thing. We must live as if our conceptions of reality are, on some level, fundamentally true. The end result of postmodernism is thus a humility toward knowledge and a massive sorting out of truths that work and truths that don't.

As a bit of a critique, I think it may be wrong to pin relativism on postmodernism, as so many do. Extreme postmodernism does away with all certainty, even individual certainty. Relativism at least claims certainty on the level of an individual or a group.

So Jones' first chapter gives us some impressions of changes. But I have serious questions about the claim that something completely different is "emerging," that we are at the point of a turn as big as the Reformation. There are some massive turns underway perhaps, but they are more concretely based than based on ideas.

And philosophical postmodernism's contribution to such changes are only transitional. It is an abyss it is significant to look into. But after we have taken a look and realized how little we know, then we will go back about our business of living and ministering, chastened and humbled, but still proceeding as if we know some things. Life is otherwise impossible.

7 comments:

Angie Van De Merwe said...

Some of us may go back to what we used to do, as far as ministry goes, but others will attempt to redefine their life around the uncertainty, which means that they will take responsibility where they used to passively "trust God". Life will become more meaningful in the everyday, because there is no confidence in what may be after death. There is a soberness that groudns one's feet and things that were so important pale in comparison to other things. Priorities change.
So, I disagree that we look into the abyss and go back to life as usual, maybe some do , but others don't. They are forever impacted and changed. They become different people, in this sense.

Ken Schenck said...

I'm not suggesting we are unchanged or unimpacted.

Anonymous said...

I've been thinking about what books I would use for this course if I was able to choose my own texts.

Any thoughts on what you would use if you could choose?

Ken Schenck said...

I'm not saying I wouldn't use the Tony Jones text--I'm personally quite happy to have a reason to read some of the emerging authors (I'm rushing through Claiborne right now). I do think that 10 years on, we are in a better position to reflect on what is emerging or emerged.

For this level of a class, I like Grenz, although the philosophy students at IWU prefer Raschke. I'm glad to read some Webber--he has an Ancient-Future book I'd like to skim through.

I wonder if some more "street" level books would be more appropriate to the program, maybe some of Brian McClaren's stuff?

What are you thinking?

Amanda said...

Thanks, Ken. I think I'm teaching the same class right now (at least, we're reading the same books).

You said, "By the way, this book was written pre-9-11 and pre-economic meltdown."

I might also add that it was written pre-Tony Jones' PhD. :) Tony is working on his PhD in Practical Theology at Princeton Seminary. In the course of his studies he's wrestled further with the pomo giants. I'd love to see him come out with another pomo ym book because I know he's certainly had a change of opinion.

Thanks again for writing--I'm sending a link of this to my students.

Mandy

Amanda said...

Here are two books that I've found helpful that deal with pomo youth ministry (even if just indirectly):

Revisiting Relational Youth Ministry by Andrew Root

The Ethics of Authenticity by Charles Taylor

Ken Schenck said...

Hey Amanda--I'd love to hear how he's thinking these days. Maybe he could do a second edition!