Monday, January 14, 2008

Monday Thoughts: Faith and Reason

Here is a draft of the last part of the philosophy chapter I posted a week ago. You can see the first two chapters in draft form at http://www.kenschenck.com/phlchapters.html.

I think I have come to a fair grasp of Reformed epistemology and radical orthodoxy--by the time this is finished it will be even better. But I post it here in hopes that the experts will refine any rough edges.
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Thus far in the chapter, we have argued that while some Christians have opposed certain forms of philosophy, all Christians are philosophers because they have views on the questions of philosophy. As we end the chapter, we need to discuss an issue that gets at the heart of Christian opposition to philosophy where it has occurred. What role does revelation and faith play in what Christians believe?

A good place to begin talking about revelation and philosophy is to notice that all thinking is, well, thinking. As we will discuss at greater length in chapter 4, we simply cannot get away from a basic sort of reasoning. We cannot “understand” anything without basic patterns of thought. Tertullian used it; Kierkegaard used it. When we articulate faith, we utilize basic reasoning.

It is thus somewhat misleading to speak of faith versus reason. Unless you believe that every individual thought you have is directly revealed to you by God and that there is no logical connection between each of your thoughts, then you use reason all the time. You think; you make connections from one thought to the next. Rather, what we should contrast is faith versus evidence. We will explore this topic in more detail in chapter 4: “Paths to Truth.”

For the moment, we would claim that Christian thinking differs from other thinking not so much in the thinking itself, the “rules” of good thinking that we will discuss in the next chapter. Rather, Christian thinking differs from other thinking because of the presuppositions by which it operates. As we said earlier in the chapter, a presupposition is something you assume before you start reasoning rather than something you necessarily argue for. They are somewhat like axioms in geometry. You do not try to prove that two points make a line. You assume it and in fact use it to prove other things.

So Christians assume any number of beliefs and interpret the world through those assumptions. For example, when a Christian reads the gospel stories, he or she will read them with the belief that miracles can actually happen. Belief in the possibility of miracles is a presupposition, and we likely come to different conclusions about the gospels depending on whether we start with this belief or not.

Now some Christian philosophers have argued that certain Christian beliefs are almost exactly like axioms. I personally believe that God exists, even though I am not sure I can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Nevertheless, it is a presupposition that I bring to the world when I am trying to understand what is going on. I assert belief in God by faith in the absence of definitive evidence.

Reformed epistemology goes one step further. You know from the previous chapter that epistemology is the branch of philosophy that asks about how we can know anything. Reformed epistemology argues that a number of beliefs about reality are properly basic, like axioms, such that we do not need to argue for them. It does not worry about trying to evaluate these beliefs in terms of faith versus evidence, as we did above. It holds that we could hardly function in the world without assuming certain basic beliefs.

So how could we function if we did not assume that the world exists outside ourselves and that the people we see have minds that are at least similar to ours? Alvin Plantinga has argued that belief in God is so intrinsic to reality that it is not only beyond reasonable doubt. He would say that our existence and our thinking all presuppose the existence of a God who makes existence and truth possible. He believes the world does not make sense unless we assume God’s existence.[i] Perhaps he is correct.
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Reformed epistemology: An approach to truth that considers certain beliefs, such as the existence of other minds, as “properly basic,” beliefs without which we could not even function in the world. Such beliefs are “warranted” without argument.

Alvin Plantinga: Along with Nicolas Wolterstorff, one of the originators and main proponents of Reformed epistemology.
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At the same time, it is no coincidence that Reformed epistemology is identified with a particular Christian tradition: the Reformed tradition. Reformed Christians believe that the only ones who will make it to heaven are those specific individuals that God has chosen to be saved. You can see that it makes sense for such a person to believe that no proof or warrant is needed for belief in God. Those whom God has chosen will obviously see the truth of God’s existence with or without logical proof.

On the one hand, other Christian traditions probably would agree that logical proof is not the most important part of faith in God. You do not need to be able to prove God’s existence beyond a reasonable doubt to justify belief that God exists. Yet it is also no coincidence that Christians who believe God gives everyone a legitimate opportunity to be saved have more room for argument about such things than Reformed epistemologists do. This textbook stands in such a tradition.

Reformed epistemology is philosophy—in fact it is hard core philosophy. It would not object to philosophy itself as a subject. However, it might object to an approach to philosophy that did not largely assume the truths of the Christian faith. This is especially true of a position very similar to Reformed epistemology called radical orthodoxy.[ii] It would especially believe that philosophy is not Christian unless it assumes all the essential elements of Christian faith.

Reformed epistemology argues that we can assume certain beliefs without argument, yet it has a very rational flavor to it. Postmodernism claims that we cannot be certain that our reasoning is sound and leads us to truth. In this light, radical orthodoxy argues that, since you cannot really prove what is true anyway, we should simply assume all the essentials of Christian faith in our thinking. Whereas Reformed epistemology might argue that belief in God is properly basic, radical orthodoxy would assume a full blown belief in the Trinity, the virgin birth, and many other things without argument that clearly are not properly basic to human thought.
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Radical orthodoxy: a postmodern approach to truth claiming that, since we cannot be objectively certain about what is true, we should assume all the essential beliefs of Christianity without argument.
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Before we leave this chapter, we should also mention that our minds are really much more than our conscious thoughts. If we are to believe the field of neuropsychology, we are only aware of the tip of the iceberg of what takes place in our brains. This fact makes us wonder the extent to which we are playing games when we act as if philosophical arguments and ideas are really the heart of our perspective on the world. What if, in fact, we behave the way we do because of things going on much “deeper” inside us than we realize? If so, then a good deal of our professed quest for truth might be a game we are playing with ourselves, a game that potentially is not really about what we think it is. It might conceivably undermine this entire book. We will return to this question in our unit “What is Truth?”

[i] See especially Plantinga’s Warranted Christian Belief (New York: Oxford University, 2000).

[ii] See especially James K. Smith, Introducing Radical Orthodoxy: Mapping a Post-Secular Theology (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2004). While many proponents of radical orthodoxy are Reformed, not all are. The postmodern element is sufficient in itself as as a basis for this position.

13 comments:

Mike Cline said...

I have to say, after trying to get through some of the Radical Orthodoxy writings, your brief definition work here was more helpful than anything I read.

Part of this is because of the deep thinking of those writing in the Radical Orthodoxy camp. It certainly isn't an easy read (at least not for me). And I think another part is the French side of things. When the French philosophers get involved, I always seems to get lost. Hmm...

Angie Van De Merwe said...

Ken, If we are "products" of our environment...i.e., family of origin, culture, etc. THEN, can't we assume that all of our "beliefs" are "really" about how certain presuppositions "fit" with what we have experienced in life? Our view of "God" is conditioned by our relationship to our father (and mother)...but, in Christianity, we believe that Scripture "fine tunes" those distortions....in Christ...

Radical orthodoxy is just "chastened" Reformed epistomology... It is Kiergaard's "leap of faith"...

Tertullian was a polemicist, wasn't he? That means he "by faith" we understand....not that we seek to understand faith....

I agree that no one lives apart from faith...but faith is conditioned by the environment...as before mentioned and we cannot, as you have pointed out, "get away from" our premises...Faith in Reason is more reasonable than "faith in faith" which is where postmodernity is and the Reformed and Radical Othodox....at least that is my understanding....and I stand to be corrected...

Ken Schenck said...

Angie, I don't know if I'll have space to engage Charles Taylor, but he has some ideas you would like about our "social imaginary." I may review his most recent book (which might take a year, unfortunately) after my current one.

Ken Schenck said...

By the way, since there are people out there who actively try to misunderstand me--let me make it clear 1) that I am not an avid fan of radical orthodoxy and 2) am not an avid fan of Charles Taylor's "social imaginary" as he understands it.

There--my prophetic side smelled a nasty email coming and thought I would nip it in the bud.

Anonymous said...

Hi Ken,

A few (generally misc) comments:
(1) "Reformed epistemology" was nothing to do with Reformed theology (5 point Calvinism) per se. This may be evidenced in several ways: (i) Plantinga and Wolterstorff did not give it that name (the label was affixed by RCC philosophers b/c P & W were at Calvin at the time); (ii) Alston (whose name should be with the 'founding fathers') says that he is still holding out for "Episcopalian epistemology" as a label :-) (iii) Plantinga now refers to the A/C (Aquinas/Calvin) model b/c he sees that Aquinas has the same themes; (iv) neither Plantinga nor Wolterstorff are soteriological Calvinists.

(2) I'm still not sure why Radical Orthodoxy figures in the discussion of RE. For several reasons: (i) RO is not primarily about epistemology at all; (ii) whereas RE is analytic, RO is 'radically' Contintental; (iii) most RO proponents (Jamie Smith's brige-building work notwithstanding) are deeply suspicious of Reformed theology in general and(iv) most of the proponents of RE are 'essentialists,' and they (at least some of them) hold out for univocity in religious language... anathema to RO!

I hope that your work is going well, and that your semester is off to a good start there at IWU!

All the best,
Tom McCall

Ken Schenck said...

Thanks Tom for this push back.

1) I was not pushing for a logical connection between RE and Reformed theology but a coherence of flavor (I was aware of Alston's membership in the trinity but didn't mention it--perhaps I should). I mentioned in conversation to Bounds today that RE does not contradict, say, Wesley-Arminianism, only that its flavor fits even better with Reformed theology and that greater room for argument fits better with the flavor of W-A theology. The point you make that is of greatest interest to me is P and W's soteriology. How would you characterize it? That might shift my direction here.

2. I know that RO is even less tied to Reformed circles than RE. Nevertheless, my main engagement with it is through Smith, who is up front about giving it a Reformed spin and I do see a similarity.

I deliberately tied RO to postmodernism rather than RE. Since RE is thoroughly modernist,I agree, it would absolutely oppose RO. I need to follow up on the extent to which RO has an epistemological concern. Thanks for this point.

I still think that there is a similar end point with regard to reason and revelation. RE stops argument on certain issues; RO stops argument on many issues. The similarity in my mind was the way in which they oppose a "blank slate" approach.

Perhaps, however, the differences outway my seeing a similarity. Thanks for helping me work through the issue!

Anonymous said...

Hi Ken,

No nasty e-mails from me!

I agree with you that W-A theology works with RE, and I agree further that some themes of RE resonate very well with soteriological Calvinism (e.g., RE's externalism).

As for the soteriology of P & W, well, it is pretty obvious to me that they are *not* 5 point Calvinists. W is harder to pin down, but he appears to be at least sympathetic to Open Theism (I'm *not* saying that he *is* an Open Theist). P, on the other hand, does not call himself Arminian, but his views are *very* close to those of Arminius (P is a foremost libertarian on human freedom, and he is largely responsible for the revival of Molinism in contemporary philosophical theology). When this is pointed out to him, he just shrugs it off ("oh well, A was Reformed too... he just lost a vote"). Remind me to tell you a funny story about P and Peter van Inwagen sometime...

All the best,
TM

Ken Schenck said...

Thanks for these great insights into the players. There is a great gulf fixed between me and these thinkers, and I am appreciative for every drop of cold water you can bring over to me... :-)

I realize that the theology echoed in that last paragraph is suspect in every way...

Angie Van De Merwe said...

Ken, in thinking this morning about this "blog"....Isn't Reformed epistomology based solely on Scripture and faith? Whereas, isn't "tradition" the "conditioning" element when it comes to "faith"? AND, how we live our lives will be based on our understanding of the interaction of these elements....Reason, it seems to me, seeks to "make sense" of the "world"...world-view...and each individual will "come up" with different hypothesis...and seek to "verify" the hypothesis...WHEREAS, those whose faith is in "faith" alone, do not question the assumptions of Christian faith (A tradition) so much as seek to believe "in spite of" experience...seeking to "be true" to what they have understood to be "a faithful witness" to their "world-view"...All people seek to "be faithful" to their world-view...and a crisis in faith comes about when any thinking individual cannot any longer hold to "fidiesm" alone....Meaning making after all is what faith is all about...and it is not so much what we believe, but how we live...that is where "the Law" comes in...because it gives proper boundaries around relationship...government and personal...

Mike Cline said...

I'm wondering if where Radical Orthodoxy and Reformed Epistemology come in contact with another is their "foundationalist" bent? I hear everyone trumpeting RO as this postmodern movement (particular on the continent), but from what I have read and understood (minimal), it seems highly foundationalist in its approach. It's almost a push-back against those "hard" postmoderns who have conceeded all chances of foundational thinking as productive. It seems to say: "Ok, let's just make everything foundational within the worshipping community, admit we are foundationalists, and go from there." Maybe I am just completely whacko on this though. Are we even reading the same stuff?

Ken Schenck said...

Certainly RE is foundationalist, although what it would call "broader foundationalism" rather than "narrow foundationalism." I don't think RO would want to consider itself foundationalist in any respect, since foundationalism is so rationally oriented. But I think I see what you are saying. Perhaps we should call RO "out the wazoo foundationalism."

Angie Van De Merwe said...

In Fowler's "faith development" the later stage is a recognition that all "truth" is symbolic...but meaningful (functional)...and then there is a conscious commitment to a "tradition"...knowing the limitations of "absoluteness"...Is this where RO is, because it doesn't seek to take the Scriptures literally and bring "coherence" to theology...It is a commitment to non-rationality (leave your mind 'at the door")...But, the RE have a commitment to the "tradition of Scripture" whereas the RC have a commitment to "tradition of Church"...So, RO is a radicalized faith....is this what Wesleyanism is "baptizing" as "total surrender" or "entire sanctification"????

Mike Cline said...

That label could stick. I went to a "debate" (if you could call it that) over postmodernisms promise for theology. I was talking about RO with one of the presenters afterwards. He happens to be one of our theologians at Bethel Seminary. We both admitted we were stumped by much of RO, but what we had gotten out of it was that it seemed to embrace postmodernism while at the same time, offer a bit of a critique/alternative to it. It's almost like saying: "I don't know what we know anymore. It's hard to prove anything rationally, in fact, it really can't be done. So you know what, I'm going to just claim tradition as the guiding factor and stake my identity on Church practices as the end all. See what epistemology can do with that!"