tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post7135236798544148935..comments2024-03-28T09:52:15.415-04:00Comments on Common Denominator: Denominational Transplant GrowthKen Schenckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-72086844788924616792011-08-31T14:25:50.113-04:002011-08-31T14:25:50.113-04:00All Evangelicals must be challenged to read the Bi...All Evangelicals must be challenged to read the Bible in the context of the whole Tradition. If they don't, they will, as has happened historically, fall into either some kind of fundamentalism or,in reaction, into a liberalism that largely fails to take the Bible or the rest of the Tradition seriously in any substantial way.FrGregACCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368463715994694203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-18417066332722807272011-08-31T10:40:09.750-04:002011-08-31T10:40:09.750-04:00Rclay,
Where can following discovery lead? to new ...Rclay,<br />Where can following discovery lead? to new understandings about how things work, what makes for the human, how to understand social and political problems, and MANY many other things....as life is an "open book" not a closed one!Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-700325770480120322011-08-31T10:36:31.285-04:002011-08-31T10:36:31.285-04:00Some believe that what works, works, whether one b...Some believe that what works, works, whether one believes that God created, or not. These can engage the Academic disciplines , work with business models, or social/political models without any thought that these models, usurp "God's place" or "God's right" over people.Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-65507608457349541392011-08-31T10:18:42.259-04:002011-08-31T10:18:42.259-04:00It's messy to be sure, but the messiness is no...It's messy to be sure, but the messiness is not an argument against the need. This is simply the nature of the situation. If we do not recognize how much of us is involved in what we call the Bible, then we simply mistake ourselves for the Bible.Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-81363207843114418292011-08-31T10:14:43.093-04:002011-08-31T10:14:43.093-04:00Kenny, you said, "If we had a Matthew 2, a Ma...Kenny, you said, "If we had a Matthew 2, a Mark 2, and a John 2, it would give us as different a picture as Luke does from these other gospels."<br />So do we look outside of scripture to find God's plan for the church. Or even more, do we look at books not even written to ponder God's will. Where will or can that lead?Rclayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04243197379933071265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-39668094579545200502011-08-31T07:47:29.480-04:002011-08-31T07:47:29.480-04:00BTW, some cant' seem to understand "God&q...BTW, some cant' seem to understand "God" as a symbol, And this can be a REAL problem, because then politics becomes a matter of "Gods' Will" or doing what one "Should"(allegience to God or Church), and those that can see or understand "God" as a symbol, still are prone to "order" such that it limits much. (Bill Gothard's "Basic Youth Conflicts", or dogmatic social ordering such that it limits the individuals within these relational and systemic contracts/bonds). <br /><br />Church growth isn't my "cup of tea", as I don't believe that this institution should be the "end", nor is "God". And this is why I value the liberty of conscience that our country has traditionally upheld concerning religion.<br /><br />Our Country allows for the personal, the individual, the ideas both academic and pragmatic that lend themselves to flourishing humans and society.Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-34104364887201142632011-08-31T06:48:46.151-04:002011-08-31T06:48:46.151-04:00Someone stated and in light of this post someone c...Someone stated and in light of this post someone could do an interestng analysis to see if the "movers and shakers" of this kind of thinking/doing are a certain personality type (S and J).<br /><br />From what I understand, the S and J's will run the N and P off....or piss them off...as the N and P's are more interested in the rational understanding of faith, and an open-ended journey...in faith. This makes for an anxious S and J....who want to make sure that salvation is assured and secure!<br /><br />Of course, besides the concrete being seen in the ritual/symbolic, Scriptures are also seen in this light, to make judgments and one's faith concrete. Fundamentalism is an S and J creation!Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.com