tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post8435295648012397306..comments2024-03-28T09:52:15.415-04:00Comments on Common Denominator: Adam cont.Ken Schenckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-59133145060829387822011-02-26T21:47:15.377-05:002011-02-26T21:47:15.377-05:00Well, it has been awhile since this was posted but...Well, it has been awhile since this was posted but I will take a crack at answering Marc's question:<br />In Rom 5:17 by one man's (Adam's)offense death passed to all men and only those that receive the gift of righteousness will reign with Jesus. In v. 18, the free gift comes to all those that receive Jesus.<br />In Rom 3:22, the atonement is unto all but is only upon all those that believe. So all have sinned in v 23, but only those that receive Christ in v 22 are justified in v24.<br /><br />Regarding Total Depravity:<br />Calvin: "What is free-will? when the Scripture everywhere declares, that man, being the captive, the servant, and the slave of the devil, is carried away into wickedness of every kind, which his whole mind and inclination; being utterly incapable of understanding the things of God, much less of doing them"<br /><br />Albert Mohler (president southern baptist theological seminary): "We don't know what good is"<br /><br />Any definition short of man being totally unable / utterly incapable of understanding God is to redefine the traditional theological term of total depravity.<br /><br />JordanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-62033910999059241862010-08-23T10:54:16.947-04:002010-08-23T10:54:16.947-04:00Ken, could you tell me if you think it is good exe...Ken, could you tell me if you think it is good exegesis to apply the all-time favourite Romans 3:23 (all have sinned) to every person under the sun but not v24 (and are justified)?<br /><br />It seems to me that the plain (albeit universalist) interpretation is rejected purely on theological grounds and not exegetical ones. Why allow "all" to mean "everyone" in v23 and then limit it to "believers" in v24. It's the same "all" isn't it?<br /><br />The same problem occurs in 5:18 as well.Marchttp://criticalBelief.comnoreply@blogger.com