tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post6267036359472977303..comments2024-03-28T09:52:15.415-04:00Comments on Common Denominator: Bob Lyon, Jesus, and DivorceKen Schenckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-81602362424172358762012-06-26T10:33:36.233-04:002012-06-26T10:33:36.233-04:00This is a sophisticated post. Bravo. The historica...This is a sophisticated post. Bravo. The historical church has made mistakes but it has a valuable intellectual tradition(see the works of the Anglican theologian and scientist Alister McGrath, and others). We must assume that all truth is God's truth but we can also assume that heart and head reinforce each other.John C. Gardnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-39946575721881185712012-06-26T10:07:57.454-04:002012-06-26T10:07:57.454-04:00Metaphor is a "meaning making" way to en...Metaphor is a "meaning making" way to encourage or maintain a social order. Legalists are too stringently tied to the text and are bound to err on the side of judgment, while those that understand the life isn't cut up into neat little pieces that are easily sliced, can lean toward "no boundaries". <br /><br />The Church has been an institution that has "set the boundaries in society". It really has little to do with God, though "God" is useful to appeal to those with consciences that are bound to outside authority. These think it is right because "God says it", not because their conscience dictates that it is.<br /><br />Internalization of one's values does not always align with convention, though convention is "appropriate behavior" according to social norms. These occassions of question about "what to do" are cases where the Supreme Court judges how the Constitution should be understood to allow for the "intent of the Founders" in grantng a free society.<br /><br />The Church is similar in its determinations about social norms, which have changed over the course of time. But, some are stuck in the 1950's and can't seem to understand that it sometimes takes two to make ends meet, there are always extenuating circumstances that aren't nicely identified in Scripture. People tend to get anxious about "the messiness" of those that get outside THEIR lines of definition of "normalcy". And it could be due to brain science as much as personality! And this is the reason, for me, that evangelicals have lost their impact, appeal and influence. Everything has to be referenced back to "God" otherwise, it is something suspect...everything that happens has to be framed within a "Christian understanding". Why not admit that things aren't so easily explained?Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-81944268439344677502012-06-25T14:48:16.032-04:002012-06-25T14:48:16.032-04:00Enjoyed your post!Enjoyed your post!Sharon Butcher Westfallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06038734705878135094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-50261331898311732252012-06-25T14:41:05.506-04:002012-06-25T14:41:05.506-04:00I might add that in the end Dr. Lyon thought it mo...I might add that in the end Dr. Lyon thought it most likely that Jesus had not originally stated any exception on the question of when divorce was permissible. He thought it most likely that Matthew himself had added the exception clause in his use of Mark.Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.com