tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post6222330745339625277..comments2024-03-28T09:52:15.415-04:00Comments on Common Denominator: Original Meaning Translation: Romans 7:13-8:2Ken Schenckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-31416978016655009332011-05-27T10:46:10.847-04:002011-05-27T10:46:10.847-04:00Rick,
You must have some definition of "Chri...Rick, <br />You must have some definition of "Christian" to be so sure of your opinion! That is fine, as long as you recognize that it is only your opinion ;-)!Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-12082005901680933992011-05-27T10:43:07.204-04:002011-05-27T10:43:07.204-04:00The universals are not practical, but ideal. That ...The universals are not practical, but ideal. That is why social conformity and individual liberty is as "odds", in a free society. The individual lives in society, but how that "plays out" varies...<br /><br />As to the "moral", that is defined according to one's values....the universal affirms, as our nation does, "life, liberty and the pursuit of property (happiness)", which is a "globalist" position...but the practical realities are written and defined by our "Constitutional Republic", which protect individual liberties. So, our nation is not a Statist nation (under political authoritarianism, but the "rule of law")...Nor is it a "Christian nation" in the absolute sense (under Church authority)... and such as it should be in a free society...Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-31390594282690699292011-05-27T10:26:59.902-04:002011-05-27T10:26:59.902-04:00"I would go even a step further and say that ..."I would go even a step further and say that it's not even much of a memory on Paul's part. I don't think Paul ever struggled much with a guilty conscience"<br /><br />That's interesting. Thanks.Ricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-82565112915004308252011-05-27T09:56:26.622-04:002011-05-27T09:56:26.622-04:00Yes, I would go even a step further and say that i...Yes, I would go even a step further and say that it's not even much of a memory on Paul's part. I don't think Paul ever struggled much with a guilty conscience (e.g., Phil. 1:6).Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-82230797166118842642011-05-27T09:50:28.558-04:002011-05-27T09:50:28.558-04:00Do you agree with the view that this is more about...Do you agree with the view that this is more about Paul's pre-Christian life than a reflection about his "current" Christian life struggles?Ricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-77773008801257180292011-05-27T09:30:08.626-04:002011-05-27T09:30:08.626-04:00It should be okay as long as we don't do it to...It should be okay as long as we don't do it too often ;-)Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-61474717435345029212011-05-27T09:12:16.396-04:002011-05-27T09:12:16.396-04:00"the state should ideally be religiously neut..."the state should ideally be religiously neutral, although it is impossible to be morally neutral." Hey Ken, is it okay if I agree with you? ;-)JohnMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-61288187157857554782011-05-27T09:03:54.058-04:002011-05-27T09:03:54.058-04:00By the way, Angie, I hide behind my Arminianism as...By the way, Angie, I hide behind my Arminianism as an excuse for what I consider to be a practical reality that the state should ideally be religiously neutral, although it is impossible to be morally neutral.Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-28200228418976895732011-05-27T09:01:28.712-04:002011-05-27T09:01:28.712-04:00You're hilarious Angie... did this come from t...You're hilarious Angie... did this come from the word "state" in the last line? You are the incarnation of equivocation ;-)Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-71167001912272168132011-05-27T08:59:33.868-04:002011-05-27T08:59:33.868-04:00Tertullion believed that "the blood of the ma...Tertullion believed that "the blood of the martyrs was the seed of the Church", while Constantine believed that one must convert under the "fear of the sword". Both are wrong.<br /><br />The Church should never demand a man's martyrdom or conversion, even for it own purposes of "Church growth"...that is immoral!Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-62923901428196890492011-05-27T08:54:31.986-04:002011-05-27T08:54:31.986-04:00This is why there can be no "Christian State&...This is why there can be no "Christian State"!<br /><br />"If the state may force a man to risk death or hideous maiming and crippling [...] for a cause he may neither approve of nor even understand, if his consent is not required to send him into unspeakable martyrdom—then, in principle, all rights are negated in that state, and its government is not man’s protector any longer. What else is there left to protect?" | Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, 226<br /><br />The State can not mandate what should come from a free choice of value. But, the Church has acted many times like a State in promoting "the holy"....and it doesn't depend on the kind of religion, either...Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.com