tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post2311081450106802165..comments2024-03-28T03:25:49.943-04:00Comments on Common Denominator: Leadership insights from Galatians 2Ken Schenckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-54928113977587376352013-11-09T22:27:44.564-05:002013-11-09T22:27:44.564-05:00Ok, thanks for checking.
Actually, there is much l...Ok, thanks for checking.<br />Actually, there is much less variance among Catholic teaching due to the Magisterium of the church having the final authority about what is taught regarding any particular verse or verses. A priest can come up with his own way of teaching it, his choosing of the cultural context and method of teaching, but the message is consistent among priests throughout the international church. That being said, please be aware that some churches have removed themselves from under the authority of the Magisterium, and yet retain 'Catholic' in their name, for now.<br />So, it would be a great surprise for the uninitiated Catholic to read a teaching that is at variance with that faith tradition's founder's teaching, and to furthermore learn that that variance is acceptable! (I'm initiated, but still learning.)Susan Moorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-9549784112731341482013-11-09T21:58:10.731-05:002013-11-09T21:58:10.731-05:00I wouldn't say there is a specifically Wesleya...I wouldn't say there is a specifically Wesleyan understanding of this passage. I looked through Wesley's thoughts briefly but didn't see much of a drastic difference. In any case, as you said, we don't have to agree with all Wesley's interpretations. I don't think Catholics have to agree on all biblical interpretations either, although clearly some are standard.Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-14564755798042631392013-11-09T21:52:39.317-05:002013-11-09T21:52:39.317-05:00Thanks for the clarification, Angie!
Dr. Schenck, ...Thanks for the clarification, Angie!<br />Dr. Schenck, yes, it seems the two Wesleyan accounts are quite contradictory to one another. I left the links there hoping you would look at it to see if I am right or wrong, I might be misunderstanding the language differences (even though the Catholic and Wesleyan accounts do not contradict each other, which could actually add to one's confusion), and also I know my brain is fried from studying all day. Thanks for understanding and checking.Susan Moorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-28661168754313846182013-11-09T20:21:14.659-05:002013-11-09T20:21:14.659-05:00Susan (pardon me if I am responding when you had n...Susan (pardon me if I am responding when you had not addressed me),<br />You are addressing "tradition" as to the Catholic Church. I was addressing "reason" as to the personalities of Paul and Barnabus and the development of Church History, and our Nation-State.<br /><br />Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-48989924001581503352013-11-09T20:20:09.636-05:002013-11-09T20:20:09.636-05:00Susan, I wasn't quite sure if you saw contradi...Susan, I wasn't quite sure if you saw contradiction? For interpretation of the original meaning, I try to use standard exegetical method. Theology can affect our appropriation of texts, but it can't change what a text originally meant.Ken Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745548537303356655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-25965374273889034872013-11-09T20:15:11.025-05:002013-11-09T20:15:11.025-05:00The modern rendition of these principles would be ...The modern rendition of these principles would be "the consent of the governed" and "limited Government" and "diversity/free speech/religious liberty", etc. I think this is what the Founders understood as a unity in diversity stance. <br /><br />Now the question is whether the boundaries of the Nation State will be respected, as to the Constitution. Or will immigrants be allowed to become citizens without naturalization? I believe that assimilation is the best policy for all involved, because it doesn't stretch the immigrant or the culture too far for comfort!Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-32287857411777409612013-11-09T20:11:22.827-05:002013-11-09T20:11:22.827-05:00I looked at Wesley Center online and found Wesley&...I looked at Wesley Center online and found Wesley's Notes on Galatians 2 interesting: http://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/john-wesleys-notes-on-the-bible/notes-on-st-pauls-epistle-to-the-galatians/#Chapter+II.<br />They were almost the same as the notes from a Catholic homily at: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/23102.htm<br />It is refreshing to know you are not obligated to share Wesley's beliefs, but how does that support the Seminary? Now do you understand what I mean regarding my response to your previous blog; about my not finding any restrictions around what a non-Catholic can define as truth?Susan Moorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8355052.post-75249090040481003702013-11-09T20:07:53.728-05:002013-11-09T20:07:53.728-05:00What vision a leader sets should not be re-organiz...What vision a leader sets should not be re-organizing the whole life of another person, unless that person consents. Paul understood this. Yet, apart from circumcision, the Circumcision will not hear and those circumcised knew that, as they had a hard time accepting the uncircumcised. Barnabus understood this.<br /><br />I think that using "God" and "saved" is a power play for Church officials, as well as those that consider themselves "saved" or "circumcised". <br /><br />Since the Protestant Reformation people disagree over such matters. The individual must determine whether he wants to be a part of the 'in" group or the "out" group. Everyone has their standards, boundaries, and opinions about "God" and "saved". Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.com